As someone who is left leaning I completely agree with you, it's clear that the values of one America are not the same as another. I would rather everyone get to express themselves and their values without constantly pulling the tug of war every four years, causing misery on the other side. Our states should get a divorce, peacefully and with cooperation of trade between the countries.
"The next four years are the best years for a red-state secession movement..." I fully agree with that. People should not become complacent because Trump won (or was curiously allowed to win this time). And with Trump in office, it's the best time for secession efforts to succeed.
As for Texas, I question whether they would vote for secession. The DFW complex, Austin, and many of the border counties will vote against it. I think a better option, which could later lead to secession, would be for Texas to split up into multiple states, which it has the right to do. Afterwards, the new Red states would not be hampered by the DFW and Austin voters in any future secession efforts. Furthermore, if the Feds and other States were to try to block Texas from splitting up (which it clearly has the right to do), that would help to foster statewide secession.
We had Texas polled on the question of splitting the state to make secession easier, and they dislike the idea. We've polled other states on splitting and it's not popular.
However, 60% of Texans poll in favor of independence. It's not a partisan issue there.
Yes, nullification is a good way to facilitate secession. Nullify first. If the Feds blink, then you have the immediate benefit of removing whatever was being nullified, plus it fosters further nullification efforts. If the Feds try to block the nullification, that then justifies secession.
I agree that red state resistance of fedgov is a very worthy project to work on, but I believe that fedgov will escalate until secession (or capitulation) is necessary.
State Guards are more valuable to a state than National Guards because fedgov has no claim on them.
Thank you for asking. I am confident that you will see my point of view if you peruse these:
As for identifying with the US, we don't need to convince the US. We just need to help Texas voters, who already want independence, convince their state legislators. If Texas goes, conservatives won't be able to win elections anymore, so the rest of the red states will have to follow Texas out of the Union.
Your "Factions of the Rightosphere" divides groups by the proposed solutions (eg dividing Christian ceasarists from parallelists), but I don't see secessionists listed, which is a proposed solution. I acknowledge that it's not a philosophy.
This is a big group. The Texas Nationalist Movement has 600k registered supporters, although only some are right-wing. And again, 50% of Louisianans and 60% of Texans support secession.
Red-state secession is not an panacea or utopia. It is an improvement. It creates a polity where any solution you have, including the one you mentioned, is more likely to happen.
Many people share your concerns, which is why a federation of red states, or at least some states within the federation, are likely to use state power to wrest control over media from seditious Leftists.
Red-state secession has an easy, realistic path to happening that we can work on now. What possible path is there, using what your movement has now, to achieving your plan?
The truth is that, even after lustrating all the institutions of influence, authoritarian regimes need the earnest, heartfelt loyalty of a significant chunk of the populace (say 25%), so that they can impose their will on the other 75%.
I commissioned a top-rated pollster to poll 7 states to look for such willingness to support ceasarism, and found almost none. When asked "How would you react if, in the future, powerful conservative members of the military or a conservative president announced that they were in the process of taking military control of the US, to prevent it from being governed by Democrats?" Only 17% said they would not resist. That combines the people who agree with the coup with those who simply are unable or too cowardly to resist, and those who are apolitical. So the people who would support it are truly a tiny fraction of respondents. https://redstatesecession.org/poll-proves-texas-independence-is-the-only-path-for-american-conservatives/
The numbers are so bad that I don't think Vance could even lustrate the institutions of influence.
As someone who is left leaning I completely agree with you, it's clear that the values of one America are not the same as another. I would rather everyone get to express themselves and their values without constantly pulling the tug of war every four years, causing misery on the other side. Our states should get a divorce, peacefully and with cooperation of trade between the countries.
As always, very insightful commentary my friend. You help re-invigorate my hope after I get attacked for standing for these truths.
thanks!
"The next four years are the best years for a red-state secession movement..." I fully agree with that. People should not become complacent because Trump won (or was curiously allowed to win this time). And with Trump in office, it's the best time for secession efforts to succeed.
As for Texas, I question whether they would vote for secession. The DFW complex, Austin, and many of the border counties will vote against it. I think a better option, which could later lead to secession, would be for Texas to split up into multiple states, which it has the right to do. Afterwards, the new Red states would not be hampered by the DFW and Austin voters in any future secession efforts. Furthermore, if the Feds and other States were to try to block Texas from splitting up (which it clearly has the right to do), that would help to foster statewide secession.
We had Texas polled on the question of splitting the state to make secession easier, and they dislike the idea. We've polled other states on splitting and it's not popular.
However, 60% of Texans poll in favor of independence. It's not a partisan issue there.
Yes, nullification is a good way to facilitate secession. Nullify first. If the Feds blink, then you have the immediate benefit of removing whatever was being nullified, plus it fosters further nullification efforts. If the Feds try to block the nullification, that then justifies secession.
I agree that red state resistance of fedgov is a very worthy project to work on, but I believe that fedgov will escalate until secession (or capitulation) is necessary.
State Guards are more valuable to a state than National Guards because fedgov has no claim on them.
Thank you for asking. I am confident that you will see my point of view if you peruse these:
As for identifying with the US, we don't need to convince the US. We just need to help Texas voters, who already want independence, convince their state legislators. If Texas goes, conservatives won't be able to win elections anymore, so the rest of the red states will have to follow Texas out of the Union.
A top-rated pollster found that Texas regular voters are 66% in favor of Texas independence https://redstatesecession.org/poll-66-of-texas-voters-want-to-secede
As for whether fedgov would attack:
Since 1945, 87% of secessions around the world have been peaceful (out of 134 national secessions). A poll found that only 7% of Americans think fedgov should attack a seceding state. Here's why it won't: https://redstatesecession.org/many-ruling-classes-have-tolerated-a-secession
https://redstatesecession.org/why-the-feds-wont-attack-a-seceding-state/
Your "Factions of the Rightosphere" divides groups by the proposed solutions (eg dividing Christian ceasarists from parallelists), but I don't see secessionists listed, which is a proposed solution. I acknowledge that it's not a philosophy.
This is a big group. The Texas Nationalist Movement has 600k registered supporters, although only some are right-wing. And again, 50% of Louisianans and 60% of Texans support secession.
The problem is that unilateral attempts at autonomy quickly run into a collision course with fedgov:
1) the state needs to tell businesses and individuals to send taxes and witholding to the state rather than to fedgov
2) federal agents will attempt to fine and imprison officials (and citizens) for ignoring or obstructing feds doing their duties
Red-state secession is not an panacea or utopia. It is an improvement. It creates a polity where any solution you have, including the one you mentioned, is more likely to happen.
Many people share your concerns, which is why a federation of red states, or at least some states within the federation, are likely to use state power to wrest control over media from seditious Leftists.
Red-state secession has an easy, realistic path to happening that we can work on now. What possible path is there, using what your movement has now, to achieving your plan?
The truth is that, even after lustrating all the institutions of influence, authoritarian regimes need the earnest, heartfelt loyalty of a significant chunk of the populace (say 25%), so that they can impose their will on the other 75%.
I commissioned a top-rated pollster to poll 7 states to look for such willingness to support ceasarism, and found almost none. When asked "How would you react if, in the future, powerful conservative members of the military or a conservative president announced that they were in the process of taking military control of the US, to prevent it from being governed by Democrats?" Only 17% said they would not resist. That combines the people who agree with the coup with those who simply are unable or too cowardly to resist, and those who are apolitical. So the people who would support it are truly a tiny fraction of respondents. https://redstatesecession.org/poll-proves-texas-independence-is-the-only-path-for-american-conservatives/
The numbers are so bad that I don't think Vance could even lustrate the institutions of influence.